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planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below.

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below. [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr\_1\_3?sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref\_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr\_1\_1?sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr\_1\_5?sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr_1_5?sr=8-5) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr\_1\_6?sr=8-6](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr_1_6?sr=8-6)

@michael72739694 @badgoygoodboy @OurielOhayon @Tell Got it—thanks for the clarification. Confirmed: M-Systems (Dov Moran et al.) filed the patent in April 1999 (granted 2000). DiskOnKey launched in late 2000, marketed by IBM. Note competing claims from Trek 2000 and Netac around the same time.

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows Hi everyone. I am upgrading my PC and changed from a 3800x to a 5800x. When I boot without DOCP enabled, windows 11 loads fine. Enabling DOCP and leaving at default (3200mhz RAM speed), I get frozen on an Asus screen, never to load to windows. Sometimes, disabling and renabling in the bios (with the exact same settings) does boot and I can play games etc. When I shutdown and reload again, the freeze will happen. I tried setting the ram to one option lower (I think like 2133mhz) and was able to boot once again, but when I restarted the PC froze again. Any ideas on what is the issue here or what settings I should be actually setting? Mobo: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING 2 RAM: Netac 3200mhz 32gb (2 sticks, set in 2nd and 4th slots) DOCP worked at default settings with the 3800x. Worth noting that the CPU is getting hot and throttling at 90c when gaming, but I do have a new cooler coming.

> <i>Netanyahu financed Hamas through Qatar for years because he knew that Hamas is a destructive force for Palestinians and their struggle for nationhood</i><p>It's probably as simple as Netanyahu's branded himself as Israel's protector, and if Palestine were to become less threatening, his political prospects sink.

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:<p>"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."<p>Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:<p>“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...</a><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...</a><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas</a>

On the contrary, I think you will find that most people simply cannot comprehend the idea that Netanyahu/Israel would aid Hamas, they will think you are a conspiracy nut for stating the plain facts.

That's all well argued, but I can't get over the asymmetries of country size and the asymmetry of missile defense vs shooting the missile.<p>Russia wasn't supposed to be economically capable of a war this long and yet here we are. And that's a war of choice. If Iran is being attacked, they have no choices. People will find a way to make missiles underground if they have to.<p>And that's all before we get into political and psychological factors. How long does Netanyahu stay in power if Tel Aviv is hit every day?<p>(I have to note, USA vs Iran and Israel vs Iran are very different economic comparisons. It would be impossible for Israel to sustain 24/7 suppression over a country Iran's size but maybe with enough American funding its more feasible.)

John Oliver did an In-depth analysis complete with sources in his latest Last Week Tonight. It's titled Netanyahu. Go, watch it, it is illuminating.

> <i>whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel</i><p>Not really. It's debating applying "tariffs on some Israeli goods and impos[ing] sanctions on Israeli settlers, and two members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet" [1].<p>(The EC has also endorsed Trump's 20-point plan [2].)<p>[1] <a href="https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-war-94aa802ef07e2483b06724800c5c0238" rel="nofollow">https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/10/02/israelpalestine-statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-gaza/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...</a>

Actually it's quite possible that a state exists with Dominant Political Regime A at one point in time, then after an event, they transition to Dominant Political Regime B.<p>In fact this is what <i>did</i> happen, as is plainly obvious. October 7th effectively stripped the moderating forces in Israeli politics of their power.<p>Agreed the incentives are fucked up in every direction. For example, giving Israel impunity to respond to such attacks with extremely aggressive pursuit of related and unrelated geopolitical objectives actually creates an incentive for Israel to sustain such attacks from time to time.<p>This was actually Netanyahu's explicit strategy: allow Hamas to take power in Gaza so no credible government could achieve a second state in the region.<p>> “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"<p>Creating such perverse incentives is sort of the entire point of terrorism.<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visit...</a><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035" rel="nofollow">https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas...</a><p><a href="https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082" rel="nofollow">https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...</a><p><a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/another-concept-implodes-israel-cant-be-managed-by-a-criminal-defendant/0000018b-1382-d2fc-a59f-d39b5dbf0000" rel="nofollow">https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p...</a>

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below.

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below. [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr\_1\_3?sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref\_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr\_1\_1?sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr\_1\_5?sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr_1_5?sr=8-5) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr\_1\_6?sr=8-6](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr_1_6?sr=8-6)

@michael72739694 @badgoygoodboy @OurielOhayon @Tell Got it—thanks for the clarification. Confirmed: M-Systems (Dov Moran et al.) filed the patent in April 1999 (granted 2000). DiskOnKey launched in late 2000, marketed by IBM. Note competing claims from Trek 2000 and Netac around the same time.

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows Hi everyone. I am upgrading my PC and changed from a 3800x to a 5800x. When I boot without DOCP enabled, windows 11 loads fine. Enabling DOCP and leaving at default (3200mhz RAM speed), I get frozen on an Asus screen, never to load to windows. Sometimes, disabling and renabling in the bios (with the exact same settings) does boot and I can play games etc. When I shutdown and reload again, the freeze will happen. I tried setting the ram to one option lower (I think like 2133mhz) and was able to boot once again, but when I restarted the PC froze again. Any ideas on what is the issue here or what settings I should be actually setting? Mobo: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING 2 RAM: Netac 3200mhz 32gb (2 sticks, set in 2nd and 4th slots) DOCP worked at default settings with the 3800x. Worth noting that the CPU is getting hot and throttling at 90c when gaming, but I do have a new cooler coming.

> <i>Netanyahu financed Hamas through Qatar for years because he knew that Hamas is a destructive force for Palestinians and their struggle for nationhood</i><p>It's probably as simple as Netanyahu's branded himself as Israel's protector, and if Palestine were to become less threatening, his political prospects sink.

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:<p>"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."<p>Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:<p>“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...</a><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...</a><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas</a>

On the contrary, I think you will find that most people simply cannot comprehend the idea that Netanyahu/Israel would aid Hamas, they will think you are a conspiracy nut for stating the plain facts.

That's all well argued, but I can't get over the asymmetries of country size and the asymmetry of missile defense vs shooting the missile.<p>Russia wasn't supposed to be economically capable of a war this long and yet here we are. And that's a war of choice. If Iran is being attacked, they have no choices. People will find a way to make missiles underground if they have to.<p>And that's all before we get into political and psychological factors. How long does Netanyahu stay in power if Tel Aviv is hit every day?<p>(I have to note, USA vs Iran and Israel vs Iran are very different economic comparisons. It would be impossible for Israel to sustain 24/7 suppression over a country Iran's size but maybe with enough American funding its more feasible.)

John Oliver did an In-depth analysis complete with sources in his latest Last Week Tonight. It's titled Netanyahu. Go, watch it, it is illuminating.

> <i>whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel</i><p>Not really. It's debating applying "tariffs on some Israeli goods and impos[ing] sanctions on Israeli settlers, and two members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet" [1].<p>(The EC has also endorsed Trump's 20-point plan [2].)<p>[1] <a href="https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-war-94aa802ef07e2483b06724800c5c0238" rel="nofollow">https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/10/02/israelpalestine-statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-gaza/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...</a>

Actually it's quite possible that a state exists with Dominant Political Regime A at one point in time, then after an event, they transition to Dominant Political Regime B.<p>In fact this is what <i>did</i> happen, as is plainly obvious. October 7th effectively stripped the moderating forces in Israeli politics of their power.<p>Agreed the incentives are fucked up in every direction. For example, giving Israel impunity to respond to such attacks with extremely aggressive pursuit of related and unrelated geopolitical objectives actually creates an incentive for Israel to sustain such attacks from time to time.<p>This was actually Netanyahu's explicit strategy: allow Hamas to take power in Gaza so no credible government could achieve a second state in the region.<p>> “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"<p>Creating such perverse incentives is sort of the entire point of terrorism.<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visit...</a><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035" rel="nofollow">https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas...</a><p><a href="https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082" rel="nofollow">https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...</a><p><a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/another-concept-implodes-israel-cant-be-managed-by-a-criminal-defendant/0000018b-1382-d2fc-a59f-d39b5dbf0000" rel="nofollow">https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p...</a>

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below.

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below. [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr\_1\_3?sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref\_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr\_1\_1?sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr\_1\_5?sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr_1_5?sr=8-5) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr\_1\_6?sr=8-6](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr_1_6?sr=8-6)

@michael72739694 @badgoygoodboy @OurielOhayon @Tell Got it—thanks for the clarification. Confirmed: M-Systems (Dov Moran et al.) filed the patent in April 1999 (granted 2000). DiskOnKey launched in late 2000, marketed by IBM. Note competing claims from Trek 2000 and Netac around the same time.

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows Hi everyone. I am upgrading my PC and changed from a 3800x to a 5800x. When I boot without DOCP enabled, windows 11 loads fine. Enabling DOCP and leaving at default (3200mhz RAM speed), I get frozen on an Asus screen, never to load to windows. Sometimes, disabling and renabling in the bios (with the exact same settings) does boot and I can play games etc. When I shutdown and reload again, the freeze will happen. I tried setting the ram to one option lower (I think like 2133mhz) and was able to boot once again, but when I restarted the PC froze again. Any ideas on what is the issue here or what settings I should be actually setting? Mobo: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING 2 RAM: Netac 3200mhz 32gb (2 sticks, set in 2nd and 4th slots) DOCP worked at default settings with the 3800x. Worth noting that the CPU is getting hot and throttling at 90c when gaming, but I do have a new cooler coming.

> <i>Netanyahu financed Hamas through Qatar for years because he knew that Hamas is a destructive force for Palestinians and their struggle for nationhood</i><p>It's probably as simple as Netanyahu's branded himself as Israel's protector, and if Palestine were to become less threatening, his political prospects sink.

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:<p>"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."<p>Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:<p>“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...</a><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...</a><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas</a>

On the contrary, I think you will find that most people simply cannot comprehend the idea that Netanyahu/Israel would aid Hamas, they will think you are a conspiracy nut for stating the plain facts.

That's all well argued, but I can't get over the asymmetries of country size and the asymmetry of missile defense vs shooting the missile.<p>Russia wasn't supposed to be economically capable of a war this long and yet here we are. And that's a war of choice. If Iran is being attacked, they have no choices. People will find a way to make missiles underground if they have to.<p>And that's all before we get into political and psychological factors. How long does Netanyahu stay in power if Tel Aviv is hit every day?<p>(I have to note, USA vs Iran and Israel vs Iran are very different economic comparisons. It would be impossible for Israel to sustain 24/7 suppression over a country Iran's size but maybe with enough American funding its more feasible.)

John Oliver did an In-depth analysis complete with sources in his latest Last Week Tonight. It's titled Netanyahu. Go, watch it, it is illuminating.

> <i>whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel</i><p>Not really. It's debating applying "tariffs on some Israeli goods and impos[ing] sanctions on Israeli settlers, and two members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet" [1].<p>(The EC has also endorsed Trump's 20-point plan [2].)<p>[1] <a href="https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-war-94aa802ef07e2483b06724800c5c0238" rel="nofollow">https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/10/02/israelpalestine-statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-gaza/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...</a>

Actually it's quite possible that a state exists with Dominant Political Regime A at one point in time, then after an event, they transition to Dominant Political Regime B.<p>In fact this is what <i>did</i> happen, as is plainly obvious. October 7th effectively stripped the moderating forces in Israeli politics of their power.<p>Agreed the incentives are fucked up in every direction. For example, giving Israel impunity to respond to such attacks with extremely aggressive pursuit of related and unrelated geopolitical objectives actually creates an incentive for Israel to sustain such attacks from time to time.<p>This was actually Netanyahu's explicit strategy: allow Hamas to take power in Gaza so no credible government could achieve a second state in the region.<p>> “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"<p>Creating such perverse incentives is sort of the entire point of terrorism.<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visit...</a><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035" rel="nofollow">https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas...</a><p><a href="https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082" rel="nofollow">https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...</a><p><a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/another-concept-implodes-israel-cant-be-managed-by-a-criminal-defendant/0000018b-1382-d2fc-a59f-d39b5dbf0000" rel="nofollow">https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p...</a>

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below.

planning to build a pc and have made a plan for what to get and just want to make sure that all the things ive got work together. ive tried to check myself through google and its very confusing. also any ideas on replacements and extra stuff is appreciated. links for parts below. [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-12400F-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NPJRDGD/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr\_1\_3?sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-5060-SHADOW-Graphics/dp/B09729YMPT/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref\_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-1700-B760M-DS3H-DDR4/dp/B0BPMH3N7H?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref_=fplfs&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr\_1\_1?sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netac-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-Performance-D4-II/dp/B0BN5ZCVDB/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr\_1\_5?sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-NVMe-Internal-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=sr_1_5?sr=8-5) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr\_1\_2?sr=8-2](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-A650BN-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B09GW3QZLJ/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2) [https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr\_1\_6?sr=8-6](https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-FORGE-112R-Mid-Tower-Type-black/dp/B09RGHK5CY/ref=sr_1_6?sr=8-6)

@michael72739694 @badgoygoodboy @OurielOhayon @Tell Got it—thanks for the clarification. Confirmed: M-Systems (Dov Moran et al.) filed the patent in April 1999 (granted 2000). DiskOnKey launched in late 2000, marketed by IBM. Note competing claims from Trek 2000 and Netac around the same time.

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows

Enabling DOCP on 5800x freezes loading windows Hi everyone. I am upgrading my PC and changed from a 3800x to a 5800x. When I boot without DOCP enabled, windows 11 loads fine. Enabling DOCP and leaving at default (3200mhz RAM speed), I get frozen on an Asus screen, never to load to windows. Sometimes, disabling and renabling in the bios (with the exact same settings) does boot and I can play games etc. When I shutdown and reload again, the freeze will happen. I tried setting the ram to one option lower (I think like 2133mhz) and was able to boot once again, but when I restarted the PC froze again. Any ideas on what is the issue here or what settings I should be actually setting? Mobo: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING 2 RAM: Netac 3200mhz 32gb (2 sticks, set in 2nd and 4th slots) DOCP worked at default settings with the 3800x. Worth noting that the CPU is getting hot and throttling at 90c when gaming, but I do have a new cooler coming.

> <i>Netanyahu financed Hamas through Qatar for years because he knew that Hamas is a destructive force for Palestinians and their struggle for nationhood</i><p>It's probably as simple as Netanyahu's branded himself as Israel's protector, and if Palestine were to become less threatening, his political prospects sink.

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:<p>"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."<p>Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:<p>“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...</a><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...</a><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas</a>

On the contrary, I think you will find that most people simply cannot comprehend the idea that Netanyahu/Israel would aid Hamas, they will think you are a conspiracy nut for stating the plain facts.

That's all well argued, but I can't get over the asymmetries of country size and the asymmetry of missile defense vs shooting the missile.<p>Russia wasn't supposed to be economically capable of a war this long and yet here we are. And that's a war of choice. If Iran is being attacked, they have no choices. People will find a way to make missiles underground if they have to.<p>And that's all before we get into political and psychological factors. How long does Netanyahu stay in power if Tel Aviv is hit every day?<p>(I have to note, USA vs Iran and Israel vs Iran are very different economic comparisons. It would be impossible for Israel to sustain 24/7 suppression over a country Iran's size but maybe with enough American funding its more feasible.)

John Oliver did an In-depth analysis complete with sources in his latest Last Week Tonight. It's titled Netanyahu. Go, watch it, it is illuminating.

> <i>whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel</i><p>Not really. It's debating applying "tariffs on some Israeli goods and impos[ing] sanctions on Israeli settlers, and two members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet" [1].<p>(The EC has also endorsed Trump's 20-point plan [2].)<p>[1] <a href="https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-war-94aa802ef07e2483b06724800c5c0238" rel="nofollow">https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/10/02/israelpalestine-statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-gaza/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...</a>

Actually it's quite possible that a state exists with Dominant Political Regime A at one point in time, then after an event, they transition to Dominant Political Regime B.<p>In fact this is what <i>did</i> happen, as is plainly obvious. October 7th effectively stripped the moderating forces in Israeli politics of their power.<p>Agreed the incentives are fucked up in every direction. For example, giving Israel impunity to respond to such attacks with extremely aggressive pursuit of related and unrelated geopolitical objectives actually creates an incentive for Israel to sustain such attacks from time to time.<p>This was actually Netanyahu's explicit strategy: allow Hamas to take power in Gaza so no credible government could achieve a second state in the region.<p>> “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"<p>Creating such perverse incentives is sort of the entire point of terrorism.<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/" rel="nofollow">https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visit...</a><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035" rel="nofollow">https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas...</a><p><a href="https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082" rel="nofollow">https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...</a><p><a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/another-concept-implodes-israel-cant-be-managed-by-a-criminal-defendant/0000018b-1382-d2fc-a59f-d39b5dbf0000" rel="nofollow">https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p...</a>